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Darth Revan Downfall WIP by JosephB222 Darth Revan Downfall WIP by JosephB222
I started working on this pic nearly two years ago, I think. It's supposed to be Revan on the bridge of her flag ship when Bastila and a squad of Jedi are trying to capture her, moments before Malak tries to blow her up. I wanted to have Revan Force choking a Jedi and have a couple of dead Jedi in the background (my Revan's a choker, she doesn't go for spamming Force lightning ;p )

It was also during a time I was getting a fair amount of people (trolls) "informing" me that Revan is male. As if by some miracle I wouldn't already know about the "official" canon :O_o: Especially with all the trolls whose sole purpose seems to be to spam every piece of female Revan fandom out there.

I wanted to wait until I was completely done before posting it, but I haven't been able to work on it for nearly a year :( And I've been starting to get quite a bit of spam on my Revan deviations again.

Though DA is no where near as bad as all the idiots on youtube, it had gotten to the point where I just felt like posting a deviation where I can explain once (and only once) why my Revan is who she is.

A video game called "Knights of the Old Republic" was released way back in 2003. I got it pretty much as soon as it was released. The first thing you have to do when you press start is choose your character. Now you're not choosing a Revan, you haven't even heard of Revan at this point. You can choose your character's class; soldier, scout, or scoundrel, and whether that character will be male or female. Since this was the first time in anything Star Wars a female could be the hero, I most certainly created a female character. If mermory serves my first character was a scout, whose outfit resembled Han Solo's (and because I really hated how the soldier and scoudrel outfits looked like.... plus the scout gets sexier looking underwear ;p which I wasn't aware of at that point =p ).

I don't remember the name I chose for my character that first playthrough, but during the second playthrough I named her "Chayla" (a random name the game generated) "Starcross" (a deliberate name I generated ;p ) and that's who she's been ever since.

Once you're done with that the game really begins and opens like any Star Wars movie with the fanfare and opening crawl. The crawl informs you of the situation and that the reigning Sith Lord Malak is the last apprentice of Darth Revan. And that's all you know about Revan so far. Your character wakes up on a Republic ship being attacked a boarded by Sith forces. If you're familiar with Bioware's other games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age then you'd be familiar with the story progression as your character continues on her/his journey meeting knew companions and learning new skills.

After the first act; escaping the planet Taris and meeting the majority of your companions, you go to the Dantooine Jedi Academy where you become a Jedi padawan. Here is where you learn the ways of the Force and more importantly get a lightsaber :D You also learn more about who Darth Revan was and that your companion Bastila was there when Malak betrayed Revan. Your quest to retrace Revan's steps to discover the secret of the Star Maps, which makes up the majority of the second act of the story.

The second act ends when you and your companions are captured and during your escaped you're confronted by the Sith Lord himself, Malak, and it's during that confrontation that you discover that YOU were actually Darth Revan all along.

Now I really feel sorry for Revan fans (male or female) if you only knew about Revan through comics, or more likely through Wookiepedia ;p , because actually experiencing this in the game was the second most awesome moment in Star Wars history (Vader revealing that he's Luke's father would be the first). And in a Sixth Sense-esque twist you realize that Revan was never referred to by gender and when Revan's face was finally revealed it was your character's face :omg:

When Malak betrayed Revan, she was critically wounded but Bastila was able to keep her alive using the Force, but Revan's mind and memories were shattered. Since the Jedi don't believe in executing prinsoners, plus they needed to know what Revan knew, they imprinted Revan with a new identity, the character you created before the game started. The experience was so positive that when I actually created a male character for a third playthrough, I only made it to Dantooine before I just had to stop and start over again with a female character.

The first official publication stating that Revan was canonically male didn't come out until sometime in 2007. That's about four years after the game came out. And I only found out about it because of all the idiots that were spamming videos on youtube featuring female Revan who just seemed only too eager to informed the "misguided" that Revan was truly male :O_o:

I mean, how insecure and frigthened of the thought of a female Revan, does someone have to be that they would continue to troll female Revan fandom nearly five years after Revan was canonically made male? I have nothing against male Revan fans, whether you're just going along with canon or escpecially if you've actually played the game that way. It's these annoying trolls that keep trying to "inform" me that Revan is male that really irritate me. Like they just can't stop gloating because they won (or as I like to think of it; Lucasart giving into the lowest common denominator).

Bottomline: when it comes to Revan, Lucasart fucked up. They just as easily could have kept Revan's gender a mystery the same way they've been keeping his face hidden. Bioware is doing that exact thing right now with Commander Shepard and (shocking to some) it's working! So I'm sure as hell not going to cater to that mistake. I'm prefectly fine with my Revan :D

So I hope this explains, or at least gives a better understanding to those who wonder why my Revan is and always will be female. And if it doesn't then you're one of the trolls I've been talking about.
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cdaybcr Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2015
Not Bad artwork, but there is only one problem: REVAN's A DUDE! And I'm not fond of genderbending
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Foxbat7455 Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015
My Biggest disappointment? You couldn't get that badass uniform Revan wore in the game.
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RedCastorPollux1138 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
You know who this image of female Darth Revan reminds me of?

Carmilla, from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2.

Well, ain't that an obscure resemblance?
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cdaybcr Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015
I like your artwork, but you do know that Revan is a Dude, right?
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NeroonCousland Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2015
Now I wish I hadn't read your comment. Left me depressed. Not what you wrote, what I had to learn. In the interest of full disclosure:
My Revan is male. For the simple reason I almost always play RPGs as a male PC first and never replayed KOTOR1 thus far. Mass Effect 2&3 being the main exeptions, due to voice acting quality and me knowing better after ME1. But I wouldn't call myself a MaleRevanFan. I wouldn't call myself a fan of any gender being made canon for a RPG with a customizable character. Especially since the only reason to make either canon was an MMORPG I'm not interested in anyways.
Ironically I prefer KOTOR2 to KOTOR1, so you could say I got shafted just as much as you Ladies ;) .

Also: Really like your artwork here. Most FemRevans of DevArts are either LightSide or hiding their evilness behind some facemask. Her pose is like she's purposely taunting both insecure men, who can't imagine a dangerous Lady and hypocritical feminists who can't imagine a female choosing selfish powerseeking instead of being always victim or saint.
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Draceer Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
Looks pretty much just like my Revan.
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DustAngel Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My Revan was/is the female with exactly the face you picked, as well. And that's that.
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Rikuthedragonslayer Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Awesome
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CenturyNitro Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2013
While I've never played KoTOR (avid SWTOR player though), I will still give you kudos for sticking with your own Revan against all these trolls and purists. xD

The mysterious aspect and not to mention the possibility of choice is far more interesting then the generic ''male human warrior'' or ''male human soldier'' characters.
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Eihort Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013

Late to the party, but that reveal in the game had me floored too. I had no idea it was coming. On another note, wasn't JKA out by then? There you were given a gender neutral name (for NPC voice overs to work properly) and were allowed to play the game as a male/female/alien.

 

There's always Exile! :D

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waterphoenix857 Featured By Owner May 29, 2013
love her and i dont mind if revan's a guy or girl even tho i haven't played kotor so good job on it on a side note she looks very hot ;) XD
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Kreite Featured By Owner May 18, 2013
I always preferred the idea that Revan was female and the exile was male: speaking as a male myself there's something oddly titillating about the thought of a woman doing all the things Revan did: mandolorian wars, Jedi civil war, saving the republic etc.

Though I only ever got to play KOTOR 2, the first game was spoiled for me by the fandom so my opinion and preference is unquestionably bias.
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ChrisMillerGU Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013
Canon shmanon. The whole thing's fictional anyway, so nobody has a right to troll you. Great job!
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in-the-footsteps Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Revan is awesome male or female.
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EonOrteaShadowmaster Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Student Writer
Wow. Terrifyingly beautiful.
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APABlackDragon Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
I agree i'm a big female revan fan and to the point revan should have been cannon female only
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FordPrefect4242 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
WELL SAID!!

I give this statement my FULL SUPPORT.

I'm a female Revan fan too ;) And like you, it IS because of my first playthrough of KotOR :D I didn't get it in 2003, but I definitely never looked at spoilers until I finished it :D That twist truly is AMAZING if you're experiencing it without being spoiled :D
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waterdaughter Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012
I love this, she looks great! And incredibly fierce. :heart:

Dark-haired fem!Revans ftw, fuck all the trolls and haters :boogie:
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JediOrSithAH Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2012
LOVE fem Revan! It would've been so cool to have an EPIC character be female! I mean, they should've reversed it: Revan female, and Exile male.
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Evilkenivil Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2012
The hell with canon! I like Female Revan way more, and a Darkside Female Revan is awesomeness incarnate! ^_^
awesome piece! looks like she's having fun :D
Insta-faved :)
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DarkOracle117 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey, my Revan's also black, so we were all disappointed by canon =P
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skywalkerlover Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
Trolls are still out there....a troll is trolling me right now....but AMAZING DARTH REVAN, btw.
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skywalkerlover Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
Me on my new account...:iconscarafileproductions:
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ManWithTheMetalArm Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
she looks like AZULA! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!
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losteyes Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012   Photographer
i think i love you for having revan female. she is female in my head (&, funnily enough, she looks pretty much the same as pictured here as in my thoughts) & i think there are so many more interesting things to do w/ a female revan. lovely! :)
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Denethos Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011
I thought this was Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender at first. She is basically a Sith Lord already.. Anywho, great job!
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Madchangeling Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
you know...female Revan is pretty hot XD
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Akael Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011
Just finished (for a given value of finished) turning this into a [desktop], so I thought I'd drop by and give you a huge "THANK YOU" for the great line work. So... thank you!
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MygoodGovernor Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
Personally I find it VASTLY more interesting to think of Revan as a Female, hell infact You're Form of Revan I always end up picturing when I think of Revan as Female. :D
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TheRevanchist9000 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2011
I'm a male Revan fan (no homo) but to make it canon ruins it for femRevan fans. I just hope Commander Shepard doesn't suffer the same fate. Great art by the way, wonderfully done.
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darkwarrior Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2011
I always thought it was a better concept to have Revan as a female, so this is a very good piece of work.
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GameChanger017 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2011
Male or female it doesn't matter it is awesome!
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Maphisto86 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2011
Right on! Both genders were well written for in that game.
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GameChanger017 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2011
I agree,they really were written well for that game.
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Maythare Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I really like this pic ;) Pose, facial expressions, lighsaber and clothing :D I don't like that "canons" at all. My Revan is woman and my Commander Shepard is woman. Don't mind what BioWare think :XD:


Now I want to play KOTOR... but my CD is broken :(
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Whozawhatcha Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Revah's always been a girl to me because I love pairing her with Carth. ;) Yes, I do that. But I will aknowledge that Revan is really "male" to all those trolls ;)
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Knight22179 Featured By Owner May 19, 2011
Very good reasoning! Heh, my first playthrough with this game was also as a female Revan. Can't remember the name I chose, but I do remember she had black hair, very much like how you have it here in your pic. Very good job on the pic btw. :D

And yeah, everyone working on Star Wars of various media keeps skrewing up. No main hero (or even a villian) as a female Jedi/Sith! Seriously, how hard could it have been to make Darth Maul a female in the first Star Wars Pre-Qual? Or even Count Dooku (who was originally thought to be a female, if I remember correctly, but they changed that obviously) Sheesh.
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Maphisto86 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2011
Actually the Jedi Exile from KOTOR II is female according to the "official" canon.
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Knight22179 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2011
True, but my point is still valid. More often than not, it's always male.
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Crusader105 Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
Very nice, exactly what female Revan should look like.

I like to screw canon and go with female Revan and male exile. Always seemed more natural to me.
Playing as female Revan is much more fun. I also *hated* the pick-up lines male Revan fumbles out trying to hit on Bastila. It's pathetic.
I always made my Revan just friends with Carth, though. I like my female Revan too much to let another man have her. Wierd, I know, but what are you going to do?

BTW, the trolls can't draw like this.
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XxBefore-I-SleepxX Featured By Owner May 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I hate it when people spam female Revan fans. I haven't really gotten this much, but I've seen other people take crap for their female Revans.

I did get some crap today though. I was showing a friend of mine some drawings of my Revan, which I am quite proud of, and he said, "Wait that's your Revan?" And then went on a rant about how Revan is male. Made me kind of mad but I didn't say anything.

Honestly, male Revan just doesn't seem as fun. I've never played as one, but I think the relationship with Bastila is kind of...forced and awkward. It's much more fun to annoy the crap out of her as F!Revan. ;p
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Rhieks Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
yay
F!Revan FTW!
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theant4 Featured By Owner May 2, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
lol awesome job!

And really you have to admit that the whole concept of female Revan is so much cooler than male because you would never in a million years picture a woman behind that mask and armor. It makes the twist of finding out you're Revan so much greater! Like you said I have nothing against male Revan -- I mean, if you think about it, BioWare did a good job of keeping things neutral for whatever gender you play as. Even the name Revan doesn't really lean one way or the other (although I think it would be a cool name for an actual person :)).

My theory is that the trolls keep up their futile arguments simply because they KNOW femRevan is better and they're just jealous ;)

okay /end-rant. Again, great picture! I <3 Revan!
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Steel--The--Gamer Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2011  Student General Artist
Whenever i play a game that allows you to choose a gender i have at least one male and female character so i can see both sides of the experience

as for this debate, i can see where your'll coning from, it makes sense to have F!Revan, just get that mod to romance Bastila (I won't get it since i don't want to wreak my copy) and you'll be fine. That being said i prefer M!Exile due to the whole thing atris, Brianna, Visas. i felt it had a bit of a better story.
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Iktorn Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2011
Great picture! :)
I always check to see your KOTOR art, beacause I really enjoyed the game.
In my personal opinion:

Don't feed the trolls. There are simply some people that like to brag and argue about something, just to prove they are right. Don't mind them. There is old chinese saying (I hope I can write it in english correctly ;)) ,,The dogs are barking, but the caravan moves on."

For me, Revan will always be female, and the Exile male. To put it simply I just think it fits the story. Especially when You remember KOTOR 2 and the talk with Kreia about the ,,influence" that Revan had on people ;)

Of course that doesn't mean I dont enjoy Your female Exile art. Not at all! Your art i great, I think you are doing great job! Thumbs UP!! :D
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Adler-Man Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2011
Amazing work. All of your Revan artwork looks incredible, keep up the amazing work, and ignore all the naysayers. :thumbsup:
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haius Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2011  Hobbyist
Well, *I* for one will always see Revan as a girl, and she looks totally badass. :)

As for keeping Revan's gender a secret, I agree. There's a comic book series based on the game, and I really appreciate that, in spite of the "canon", they've avoided all gender pronouns through ten trade paperbacks. XD

Can't wait to see this one finished (with background and dead Jedi I hope!) XD
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weaselton Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2011
I never had an issue with Revan's gender, but I do know they did finally need to make a call on it for the canon story. *Not that that matters when George decides to go and edit the lore at will.*
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DavinSunrider988 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I usually play as a male Revan(because teasing Bastila is far too much fun :D ) but I wish that for the 'canon' versions of the characters, Lucasfilm had switched them, and gone with Female Revan and Male Exile, since story-wise those versions of the games are more interesting to me.

I totally agree with you about the reveal, by the way; that really threw me for a loop the first time I played KotOR.
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Aralicia-Moran Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2011
I like the image, we can somewhat feel the perverse pleasure of Revan when choking the enemy.

I think that theses trolls who just indicate you that you're wrong if a bit forcefully fall in two categories : the "true" fans, who restricts themselves only to the canon, and if possible G-canon; and the ones that just can't imagine that a female could be Dark Lord of the Sith, ergo Revan is male, and Lucasart agrees.

Personally, I strangely go reverse than the canon in terms of genders... my Revan is female, mainly because it feels right when compared to the male walkthrough. My Exile is male, but i must admit that it's mainly because i like Handmaiden far more that Disciple. And I've always played Jaden as a female twi'lek.

I agree that lucasart probably should have not set canonical genders. They however needed to set a canonical end, and thus character side for history continuity. On that points, my Revans (and usually Exiles) are rarely LS or DS, but overall neutral. It is a stance that I really like in the sw universe, but is pretty hard (and sometimes downright impossible) to maintain in both kotor. It's due to my vision of the force, I think, as I am more or less a believer of the Unifiying Force and the White Current.

On last word when watching your image again : the DS Starforge armor is truly far more classy than the LS ones.
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